February 18, 2010

Austin 'suicide' plane crash next to CIA building, bombs suspected, HAZMAT truck across street

(Updated: 03/09/10)

"It's not him. The letter itself sounds like it's coming from a different person."

"Several witnesses are reporting they first thought it was a bomb."

"Andrew Jacobson was on the second floor when he heard a "big whoomp" and then a second explosion. He also thought a bomb exploded."

"A veteran commercial airline pilot on CNN said that he was surprised at the size of the explosion given the size of the plane. Some are inferring that some kind of explosives were also involved..."

I don't know about you, but to me, the IRS building above looks like bombs caused the massive destruction and fire to it, not just this puny Piper plane hitting the first floor of this 7-story government building going really fast (deja vu!).

Notice the extensive damage and fire to the building, even wrapping all the way around the left side.
What happened to the building's fire extinguishing system???

How could such a small plane do all this damage by itself?!
Notice: all the windows blown out as if bombs exploded inside
the upper-right windows aren't blown out, even though closer to impact spot as opposed to the blown-out upper windows on left side of building
-- and it didn't collapse from fire!

Remember the suspicious Charles J. Bishop plane crash, where a Cessna hit the office building that housed Sen. Graham's (D-FL) office? It hardly caused any outside building damage and didn't even explode inside!

Far cry from what the Piper plane supposedly did in Austin.

The Piper plane seems to have hit the Echelon building between the 1st floor and retaining wall below it.
It didn't even penetrate all the way into the building as you can see large parts of it still sticking out proving it didn't shattered into confetti as you would expect if it hit super hard and blew up so much to cause all that mass damage to the building, or if it was packed with explosives as some newsers speculated because they were astonished this puny plane could do so much damage.
"...witnesses describe an enormous explosion. The plane is reported to be a Piper Cherokee 140, and cable newsers are speculating that it's unlikely that such a plane could produce an explosion of that size without the aid of additional fuel or explosives onboard."
Notice that the plane's engine block landed way back on the street and nothing seemingly else from the plane. Weird.

So is this Austin "suicide" plane crash a PSYOP?
According to PrisonPlanet it is as they claim a "trusted source" told them that an informant in the Dallas FBI office said the FBI knew the attack was going to happen today and they were immediately on the scene filming the crash and witnesses.
And any coincidence this suspicious crash happened in Austin, TX, home to Alex Jones?!

It also doesn't help curb suspicions when this crash happens next to the offices of the FBI and, of course, the CIA:
The building complex houses IRS, CIA and FBI offices

The structure, called the Echelon building, is located in the 9400 block of Research Boulevard in Austin, Texas, and houses offices for the Internal Revenue Service, including its civil enforcement and criminal investigation divisions, reports the Austin Statesmen. Offices for the CIA and FBI are also locted in the building complex, but were not hit in the crash.

And if it was a PSYOP with bombs causing most of the damage to the IRS building, then it makes sense that they had a HAZMAT firetruck waiting across the street:
Reporter: "Is there anything else you would like to say after seeing this this morning?

Megan Riley: "I guess -- the one thing I'd like to say -- I know the Fire Dept got here real fast, because they actually had an engine sitting over there that just happened to be doing something with HAZMAT, so they were over here like right away.

Reporter: Wow!

You said it reporter, wow.

The firefighters and media even comment how "lucky" it was they were right across the street doing hazmat drills.

First responders say luck was on their side
This is a story about being at the right place at the right time, with a little bit of bravery mixed in.
Those guys are about 15 firefighters from the West Lake, Oak Hill, Pflugerville, and Lake Travis fire departments. Thursday morning they were running hazmat drills in a parking lot across Highway 183, when they saw the plane.
"The chances could be one in a million," Lake Travis Fire Chief Robert Abbott said of the timing.
Because it was hazmat training, Lake Travis Engine 604 was the only fire truck on scene. But that didn't stop it from being the little engine that could, firefighters said.

One in a million? More like one in one.

This Austin plane crash is not being blamed on a lone-nut Muslim this time, but on a middle-aged white guy, Joseph Andrew Stack, who is being portrayed as part of one of the biggest emerging domestic threats, the right-wingish anti-govt, anti-tax teabagger crowd (which is reminiscent of when the government blamed the suspicous OKC bombing on the biggest emerging threat during the Clinton-era, the right-wing militias).

One problem though, Stack was not even a teabagger and if you read why he supposedly committed this attack, he doesn't even come across as a right-winger since he reportedly was extremely critical of "big brother," corporations, the Catholic church, and George W. Bush and ends with a saying that's communist-friendly and anti-capitalism.

The communist creed: From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.
The capitalist creed: From each according to his gullibility, to each according to his greed.

If Stack is some kind of patsy, then you'd expect his friends to be, you guessed it, "shocked" because they described him as an "easy going guy", never heard him talk about politics, about taxes, or about the government, a loving father who traveled to Norway every year to visit a daughter and grandchildren, the last guy you'd expect. That doesn't seem to fit the profile of "suicide pilot" to me.

Acquaintances Saw No Anger in Pilot in I.R.S. Building Crash
Published: February 19, 2010
...no one could have seemed more normal than A. Joseph Stack III...
I never saw Joe angry about anything,” said Billy Eli, a honkytonk bandleader who played with Mr. Stack for about three years in the mid-2000s. “He was just a middle-of-the-road kind of dude.”
...a portrait of Mr. Stack emerged as a companionable family man unrecognizable from the diatribe posted online in his name.
“A bit engineer-ish, but easygoing, even-tempered.”
When taxes came up in conversation, his tone seemed no more strident than the usual April 15th blues.
“... He didn’t have any ego."

Perhaps then we should wonder if the real reason his house burnt down before the crash was not because he was that disgruntled, but to burn away evidence the government doesn't want anybody to find out about him.

It's also interesting to note that the Hazmat witness Megan commented that the plane that hit the IRS building was close enough to see who was flying it, but she didn't see anyone in it. This is interesting because we never saw photos of Stack's body being hauled from the scene even though the plane he was supposedly piloted still remained in large pieces after the crash.

So if this was a PSYOP, why today? I don't know, but there sure was a lot of interesting stuff that either happened, or was reported about today:

But maybe the biggest story that the powers-that-be wanted to squash today is one that involved an organization that is just as synonymous with conspiracies as the CIA is:

Dubai police call on Interpol to help arrest Mossad head
Thursday 18 February 2010
Emirate '99% sure' Israeli spies were behind Mabhouh death
Israeli ambassador told to explain use of fake British passports
Interpol releases 'wanted' notices for Dubai murder suspects
Thursday 18 February 2010
Official "wanted" notices were released today for a suspected team of Israeli secret agents accused of participating in the assassination of a Palestinian militant.
The faces of an 11-strong alleged hit squad appeared on the Interpol website this morning, 48 hours after authorities in the United Arab Emirates issued arrest warrants for the killing last month of the Hamas operative Mahmoud al-Mabhouh.

And what's a PSYOP without some spooky numerology connecting it to 9/11:

"A spokesman for the Austin fire department said the plane hit the building at 0956 local time"

9:56 --> 9:(5+6) = 9:11 --> 9/11

I also can't help but notice a lot of similarities to the false-flag Pentagon attack:
  • Both were 'suicide plane crashes'
  • Both were federal buildings
  • Both buildings are 7 stories tall
  • Both 'crashes' happened into side of building
  • Both epicenters were at the 1st floor
  • Both created huge explosions like a bomb attack
  • Both had firetrucks nearby
  • Both low in casualties respective of employee totals
  • Both places hit involved govt financial records

(Note that from the evidence I've seen about this Austin incident, I believe at this point that a real plane crashed there as officially claimed unlike the Pentagon and at the other two spots on 9/11. If this Austin crash was a PSYOP, then it would be logical to think the plane was remotely guided in. Hitting the side of a 7-story building with a speeding plane knowing your about to die seems a little too "lucky" in my opinion, but feel free to take my $10,000 challenge if you think you could do it with no problem.)

(Update 02/20/10)
Comment from Stack's daughter from Norway seems to suggest her father was set up:
Stack's daughter from his first marriage, Samantha Dawn Bell, said the Web manifesto didn't sound like the father she knew.
"It's not him. The letter itself sounds like it's coming from a different person," she said in an interview from her home in Norway.
The AP is suggesting the lowers floors were specifically targeted:

Stack, 53, apparently targeted the lower floors of the building that houses IRS offices after lashing out at the agency in a ranting manifesto posted on a Web site shortly before Thursday's attack. In the note, Stack claimed the government and the its tax code robbed him of his savings and ruined his career.
To me, this suggests remote control because I find it hard to believe Stack would be able to hit a specific floor on a specific side of a specific short 7-story building of that Echelon complex with pin-point accuracy knowing he's about to die.

(Update 02/24/10)
Interesting comment at a music forum that looks sincere and quite the smoking gun if true:

Re: airplane crash into office building in Austin, Texas

I was told that almost everybody on the first floor had the day off by a co-worker that attends classes in that building. It could have been much worse.
(hat tip to LT)

(Update: 02/26/10)
The Real Motive?

Texas attack revives debate over private jets
02/25/2010 - usatoday.com

In late 2008, the Transportation Security Administration made a stunning and little-noticed projection: If a private jet flew into an urban office building, 3,000 people could be killed. That's a higher death total than in the Sept. 11 attacks.

The TSA used the estimate to justify a plan to impose security rules on 15,000 private jets, including requirements that jet operators check passengers against watch lists and keep weapons off their planes.

The proposal was labeled as potentially crippling to jet owners. More than 7,000 protest letters from private pilots, businesses and aviation groups forced the TSA to rewrite its plan. A new proposal is likely late this year, and security rules could take effect in 2011 — a decade after the 9/11 attacks.

TSA planning to inspect shops that repair jets
11/17/2009 - usatoday.com

Thousands of airplane maintenance shops in the U.S. and abroad would get increased scrutiny to make sure they are not easy prey for terrorists looking to sabotage U.S. jets during routine repairs, a government proposal says.

A TSA regulation proposed Monday would for the first time enable the agency to inspect airplane repair shops.

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anonymous law said...

The most significant event this worldwide story effectively drowned out was the 11 Mossad assassins caught on videotape executing a Hamas official in Dubai (extrajudicial killing). Particularly telling was the use of false passports and identities just like the 9/11 hijackers (alive!).

Also story just breaking is assassination of John F. Kennedy Junior by Mossad for Bush/Clinton. Read about it here:


Unknown said...

Yes, Amazing, Larry King Live was scheduled to cover the Mossad Assassins caught in Dubai but dropped the story for the Austin Plane Crash!

tabac said...

hey kill, did you happen to here how the fbi was RIGHT there confiscating all the cctv vids?

Killtown said...

No tabac. Please post a link if you find evidence to that. That would be gold!

tabac said...

sorry i heard it on fox news=can't find a clip=BUT there is traffic cams that are on that show the building-russia today had a feed showing the fire and we have not seen them yet have we?

tabac said...

second hand here http://www.rotaryforum.com/forum/showthread.php?p=347368 and here http://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/MessageTopic.asp?p=18058660&Pg=2 sorry best i can do so far-i'l keep diggin///

Killtown said...

Definitely interesting tabac!

"Correct. I've heard the FBI has already confiscated all of the street level security cameras at the scene. The FBI has denied doing it...." - link

spooked said...

great roundup on this story!

tabac said...

thanks spooked! the widow of the i.r.s. worker is suing stack's wife-mrs. stack should look into the "anomalies" of this crash-it could greatly aid her defense.

spooked said...

1) any chance of posting this in another forum under another name so I can post at DemUnderground?

2) also, who is "tabac"?

Anonymous said...

About the similarities between the Pentagon and the IRS building:

Austin is the Capitol of Texas - Washington is the capitol of the U.S.

Killtown said...

Hi Spooked,

1) just copy/past this blogpost without adding the link, or write up all the info differently.

2) Don't know

3) why am I the most censored at DU?!

Killtown said...

Some things I added to this blogpost:

- What happened to the building's fire extinguishing system???

- the upper-right windows aren't blown out, even though closer to impact spot as opposed to the blown-out upper windows on left side of building

tabac said...

i am tabac! formerly sidvicis of k.t.'s former forum.

Killtown said...

Added what might be the real motive:

The TSA was trying to justify a plan to impose security rules on 15,000 private jets.

tabac said...

http://www.eclipptv.com/viewVideo.php?video_id=6348&title=911_Hidden_in_Hollywood___Part_1 -if you go to aroun 9:00 in, listen to the sound effect of the plane=sounds just like one of the amateur second hit vids-sorry,can't remember which one-these guys are evil@ lazy! lol check it out

tabac said...

sorry make that 3:11 in- i read the full time as time in-anyway it's worth checking out and ps kt= that's exactley what they want to do now the private pilots will experience a little of what the "flying public" has experienced

Killtown said...


An observation that adds weight to witness Meghan commenting that she didn't see anyone flying the plane.

The plane still remained in large pieces after the crash, but we never saw photo of them hauling Stack's body away from the scene.

Anonymous said...

THANKS! *VERY* good info.

Of course there are unrelated items amongst your findings, but all investigations suffer from that. But an investigation *it is*.
You are my No1 candidate to pay via flattr.

My 2c: I would leave out numerology items, although I understand the temptation.

I wish you well,