The planted engines at Shanksville

Here is a photo released from the Moussaoui trial that is supposedly showing one of Flight 93’s engines being recovered from the crater which is "proof" that Flight 93 crashed in Shanksville according to OCT’s and even some 9/11 Truthlings:

(Photo source: rcfp.org/moussaoui [hi-res])

However, just look how obvious it is that this piece of engine scrap is PLANTED!!!

The small smashed up engine scrap fits neatly into the backhoe bucket (just another “coincidence” aye?!). All the perps had to do was lower this small engine scrap down a few feet with their backhoe and quickly snap a pic for their little perp engine photo-op:

Remember that we were told that the perps had to dig down to about 45ft to recover the rest of Flight 93 and then the black boxes, which are located in the tail section of the plane, where supposedly found at 15ft and 25ft below the ground and yet we are supposed to believe that one of Flight 93’s heavy and strong engines that supposedly impacted the ground at a whopping 580mph only managed to burrow down just a few of feet under the “soft soil”???

And one wonders what happened to the rest on the once large engine that’s no where seen in the crater?!

(Flight 93 was equipped with two Pratt & Whitney PW2037 engines. Photo source: clemson.edu)

The only other pieces of debris that are seen in the crater are just a few shiny and very small scraps that look placed in the crater. I guess not placing any other debris in the crater along side the engine for their little photo-op would just look a little “too obvious”!

If you look closely at the “burrowed engine,” you’ll notice that it’s not even submerged in the “soft dirt” and doesn't seem to have any dirt on it after it supposedly burrowed through the dirt at 580mph. The engine scrap also looks old and rusted:

One question would be, is this engine scrap facing up as if a plane crashed backwards?

(Note: This diagram is of an unknown type of turbine engine. Source.)

It's also interesting to note that in another Moussaoui/government close-up photo of the fake crater, they show a couple haz-mat perps that they seem to purposely want in their photo-op, but don’t want to show their faces:

(Hi-res photos: right / left)

So, planted engine #1!

Now, planted engine #2:

Well, there is no photographic evidence of a second engine reportedly found at the scene (how convenient for the perps, huh?), so there is no way to know if this alleged 2nd engine found was the type Flight 93 even had. It is also not clear as to what was found and where. News reports have a nearly intact engine vs. an engine fan and found in the bushes vs. found in the pond 300yds away:

“One of the Boeing 757's engines, nearly intact, was recovered, but aside from that, the largest piece of debris was no larger than a briefcase, Szupinka said.” – Washington Post (09/14/01)

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“Szupinka said searchers found one of the large engines from the aircraft "at a considerable distance from the crash site.”
“It appears to be the whole engine,” he added." - Pittsburgh Live (09/14/01)

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[Ernie Stull, mayor] "I saw parts of the wreckage with my own eyes, even one of the engines. It was lying in the bushes." - Der Spiegel (09/08/03)

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“Experts on the scene tell PM that a fan from one of the engines was recovered in a catchment basin, downhill from the crash site. Jeff Reinbold, the National Park Service representative responsible for the Flight 93 National Memorial, confirms the direction and distance from the crash site to the basin: just over 300 yards south, which means the fan landed in the direction the jet was traveling. "It's not unusual for an engine to move or tumble across the ground," says Michael K. Hynes, an airline accident expert who investigated the crash of TWA Flight 800 out of New York City in 1996. "When you have very high velocities, 500 mph or more," Hynes says, "you are talking about 700 to 800 ft. per second. For something to hit the ground with that kind of energy, it would only take a few seconds to bounce up and travel 300 yards." – Popular Mechanics (03/05)

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"The biggest part I found was one of the plane's engines. It was about 600 yards from the crash site itself. I think they took it out with a winch on a bulldozer." - Sharon-Herald.com (10/08/01)

Now good ole’ Popular Mechanics seems to be saying this engine part found in the pond tumbled across the ground before landing in the pond. If it did that, it would have had to lob over the very tall tree line hugging the service road next to the crater:

(Photo taken on 9/12. Source: usinfo.state.gov)

(Photo source: BBC)

Now, of course, a pond would be a great place to plant engine debris because it would be cold when recovered so they wouldn’t have to worry about planting hot engine parts in it, but that is if there was engine debris recovered from the pond at all:

Subject: RE: Follow-up question about engine found in pond
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006

From: "Tim Lambert"
To: "Killtown"

i just checked an article i had written after my first trip to the site....it was a piece of fuselage that was recovered from the pond.
tim

– (My email exchange with one of the landowners.)

But regardless as to whether a nearly intact engine was found in the bushes, or an engine fan was found in the pond, here’s the road the perps took to plant whatever engine parts they planted in or near the pond:

(Skyline Rd leading right up to the pond. Photo from Google Earth.)

The pond area was a perfect place for the perps to plant the second engine, or engine part. The area was secluded from the crater area and there was a road that goes straight to the pond, so no worrying about leaving tire marks through the grass field that could be spotted. Also, it eliminated the risk of having to plant two engine scraps in the crater.

See also:

• Killtown’s: Did Flight 93 Crash in Shanksville?
• Spooked’s: The Flight 93 Engines: WTF???

Faked Shanksville crater and the burnt forest section

See here for new evidence of the burnt forest section: Shanksville forest mostly burned after 9/11?


(Updated: 12/30/06)

It should be obvious by now that no Boeing 757 crashed and caused the Wile E. Coyote crater in the ground in Shanksville, PA because of the almost perfect wing impressions in the ground, a faint tail imprint in the grass but no tail section, the small amount of dirt displaced, the lack of debris from a 155ft plane, and the lack of fire damage to the grass around the crater from the supposed 5,500 gal of jet fuel on board at impact.

(Purple circle = left wingtip; blue circle = vertical tail tip; yellow circle = right wingtip. Service road is left of purple circle. Remember that the 757 supposedly flipped on its belly and crashed almost 90 deg downward according to multiple witnesses. Also, notice that whatever made the impression in the grass in the shape of a tail didn’t penetrate the ground and then completely vanished.)


The crater obviously had to have been made some other way and I’d speculate the most logical way is that is was made similar to how the crater was made for A&E’s Flight 93. But what's important to remember is that as long as a 757 didn’t create the crater, what did is a moot point.

(Man-made crater from A&E’s Flight 93.)

However, what I’ve always wondered was how did only the middle of this fake crater and a small section of forest catch on fire, but hardly any of (if any at all) the grass around the crater, or the grass in between the crater and the burnt forest section where the small service road is?

Furthering this weirdness is that the trajectory of the burnt forest section doesn’t even align with the trajectory of the alleged flight path.

(Green dotted line = fire damage; Purple circle = left wingtip; blue arrow = flight path; yellow circle = right wingtip. Map from Popular Mechanics)

It’s as if something was launched into the middle of the crater at a slightly different angle to cause fire damage around the crater to help make it look like a plane had actually crashed there, but instead this projectile bounced off up and over the section of grass and small service road in between the forest and then exploded into the trees. And I think this is what happened.

Take a close look at the displaced dirt in the crater. Notice that the displaced dirt looks it was pushed in one direction leaving a ramp-like shape.

(See video clip of this aerial shot.)

*** See all original crater and aerial photos here ***

So if some kind of projectile was launched into the middle of the crater and bounced in the direction the pushed dirt is pointing to, its trajectory lines up perfectly with the small section of burnt forest.

If this sounds a little way out there, look what one of the officials at the scene was trying to pass off to us and notice he describes what I am saying in that an object came down at a 45-degree angle on bounced off into the woulds even though witness reports said the plane they saw was coming down at nearly 90-degrees:

“Miller recalled his arrival at the crash site about 20 minutes after the plane plummeted to the earth and described how the aircraft came down at a 45-degree angle. He explained how the cockpit broke off at impact, bouncing into a wooded area of about 60 acres. The resulting fireball scorched about eight acres of trees, he said.” - Pittsburghlive.com (05/30/02)

It makes perfect sense as to why something looks like it hit the middle of the crater and bounced off in a perfect trajectory towards the burnt forest and why that forest section is at a different trajectory than how the alleged 757 supposedly came in caught fire, but the grass and service road between the crater and the burnt forest section was not touched by any burning jet fuel.

It would also explain how some of the burnt trees closet to the crater had their tops broken.

FOX News reporter: It looks like there's nothing there, except for a hole in the ground.

Photographer Chris Konicki: Ah, basically that's right. The only thing you can see from where we where, ah, was a big gouge in the earth and some broken trees.” – FOX video (09/11/01)

Lastly it may also explain what the small white mysterious jet with the “military” look was doing at the crash scene before the explosion as multiple people witnesses and was seen coming in over Indian Lake which is the opposite direction Flight 93 supposedly came it.

The only thing left to wonder about is how the middle of the crater caught on fire if whatever bounced off from the middle of it only exploded in the forest. Noticed that none of the tall grass growing right up against the rim of the crater caught on fire which suggests no large fire was in the crater. Maybe the inside of the crater was doused was fuel before hand and caught fire as the projectile landed in it and then accidentally bounced and exploded into the burnt forest section.

That might also explain why some of the dirt in the carved out crater doesn't look like it was touched by fire and why some of the dirt in the crater looks "old" as if it was carved up well before Sept. 11.

However, it doesn’t really matter because it’s clear that no 757 caused any of this.

See also:

• Did Flight 93 Crash in Shanksville? – Killtown
• Flight 93 Image Gallery