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For the NPT impaired:

Why They Didn't Use Planes To Hit The WTC

Death threat from planehugger 'EzraPound'

EzraPound 31 Aug 2008, 01:32 AM

KillTown, you would not ever want to be left alone in a room with me, along with Judy Wood, Reynolds, Fetzer, and half a dozen of your moron retard followers. You have done millions of hours damage to the 9/11 Truth movement's campaign to get the simple obvious reality of this day out to the wider public. You have prolonged the slaughter of now over a million Iraqi women and children. You have assisted these neocons to spread DU all over the middle-east which will result in increased cancers in the world. You have allowed 4000 US soldiers to be sent to their death. You have allowed 20,000 US soldiers to become sick from DU poisening.

You would not want be left in a room with me and an M16 in my hand and all you No-PLaners lined up against a wall. I know what I would do, and I would do it without blinking.

- 911oz.com (single post)

(Update)

'EzraPound' denies comment was a death threat. Says I'm "slandering" him (lol):

This is absolute slander. I never made a death threat. If KillTown is making any money from this false cry then I Ezra will have it.

(Update)

Ezra now tries to change what he meant:

I would leave the M16 in the room, and lock the door behind me for you No Planers to squabble over your ALien Lizard Orb Microwave Tiem-Machine 9/11 theories.

Et tu, Bermas?

On Tuesday's Alex Jones show, Jason Bermas was discussing details from the BBC's WTC 7 doku hit piece. Near the end (not recorded in the previous link), Bermas mentions that the BBC was promoting disinformation by showing a close-up clip of Nico Haupt wearing his "TV fakery" t-shirt (@ 57:06).

Bermas then proceeded to insult the idea that TV fakery was used on 9/11 to cover-up that no planes hit the WTC by calling it something like a ludicrous theory.


Ludicrous huh? Well better not tell Bermas that the military planned to use 'TV Fakery' since 1995 and the media had warned since 1999 about the military's use of it and how live TV broadcasts can be doctored.


And does Bermas really have any room to talk about certain theories being "ludicrous." How many times did he have to redo Loose Change again? And speaking of "ludicrous," what does he think hit the WTC? Watch the first 4 mins of Bermas' Loose Change I for a refresher course:





Bermas believes in the "Pod" theory; drone planes with a special "pod" fired a missile out of it into the Twin Towers a fraction of a second before impacted. I also believe he thinks these drones were outfitted with "special skin" and that's why the plane appears to "melt" into the facade without meeting any resistance.




The Pod theory has been criticized arguably as much as TV fakery by some in the truth movement and Bermas got so much flak about promoting the "pod" theory in Loose Change I, that he took it out of his 2nd edition.


I'm sure one reason Bermas thinks TV fakery is "ludicrous" is that he buys into the "thousands of witnesses" around the WTC saw the planes. Yet, I believe he still thinks no plane crashed into the Pentagon even though "hundreds of witnesses" near the Pentagon "saw it."


A while back I had asked Dylan Avery what he and Jason Bermas thought hit the WTC on the Mike Swenson show (@ 5:32) when they had him set to be the first caller to attack me. Dylan says he never answered my question because "there's much better things to do" (or something like that) and when I pressed him again his responses was "I don't know what hit the 2nd Tower."


Too bad Bermas has joined the haters club. I always thought he was pretty open-minded. Sad to see he's now towing the Alex Jones' "That's disinformation!" party line.


Hope you are getting paid well over there Jason.

The 'Laser Light' Myth

(Updated: 04/10/08)

I just saw a video today that is still pushing the "laser light" theory that has been a longtime claim by Lord Podder Phil Jayhan, so I thought I would put this myth to rest just like I put to rest the myth about Jayhan's beloved Pod.

The "laser light" is nothing more than a piece of paper floating around in the air.

The 'Laser Light' @ the WTC Myth (ver 2)

Update:

I've included additional footage that shows tons of paper from the WTC floating and raining down on the filmer.

Stand up against '9/11 Truth' dictators

Yesterday was another sad day in the 9/11 “truth” movement. It seems like there are certain people in the movement who think they know what’s best for movement and want to dictate which 9/11 conspiracy theories are ok to discuss and which ones are forbidden to talk about (ironic, huh?).

Yesterday Dylan Avery, of Loose Change, banned certain conspiracy theories to be discussed at his “9/11 truth” conspiracy forum:

dylan avery Posted: Apr 2 2007, 06:59 PM

Whoever's behind this multiple-IP temporary forwarding no plane spamming nonsense ...

Loose Change Forum is from now on taking a NO TOLERANCE POLICY on "No Planes At WTC"

From this post forward, anyone seen promoting that theory ... first offense, 7 day suspension. Second offense, banning.

This is our forum, and we refuse to allow our reputation to be tarnished any further.

Did you get that? He banned certain conspiracy theories from his conspiracy forum; the ones he feels are harmful to the movement. Why? Because obviously he thinks he knows what’s best for the 9/11 “Truth” movement.

(Photo source)

If you agree with Dylan's decision in banning this particular theory because you feel it has no basis and/or is "discrediting" the movement, how will you feel if/when he bans one of the theories you believe in?

The funniest part is that his overreaction came in part from the result of the actions by a couple spammer trolls who launched an attack on me by bumping all my old threads up in an attempt to make me look bad and when the first spammer got banned, they came back under different names (even copying my own ID somehow) and began bumping more of my old threads up, but this time they got clever and made themselves look like no-planers, the people who Dylan obviously despises. These crafty spammers deliberately did this to make me and no-planers look bad and Dylan fell for it hook, line, and sinker.

When I pointed this out to Dylan, this was his reaction:

dylan avery Posted: Apr 2 2007, 07:21 PM

"QUOTE (Killtown @ Apr 3 2007, 12:20 AM) Dylan, you fell for the oldest trick in the book."

You are now suspended for 7 days.

Start being a responsible person and researcher.

“Start being a responsible person and researcher.” Hmm, that’s pretty funny coming out of his mouth.

But this should not come to any surprise; he’s been abusing his power at his poorly run forums for quite some time. The Loose Change Forum is legendary for deleting posts and banning at will. Now a lot of these deleting of posts and bannings have been towards conspiracy skeptics who’s sole purpose was to disrupt the forum and ridicule 9/11 conspiracy theorists, so I don’t have a problem with taking action against these immature trolls (even though I personally would have handled it differently), but it’s the deleting of posts and banning of legitimate researchers with legitimate questions exploring all aspects of the truth that can not be tolerated. It’s censorship, “plane” and simple.

Dylan also closed down the first Loose Change Forum after he banned a lot of his admins and mods for standing up to him*.

(*Note that there was a lot of corrupt admins at the first LC forum in which I was for them being de-admined, but I was not for Dylan’s mass admin banning and I did not know the whole story at the time about what his reasons were for his mass bannings.)

It’s also very disturbing that one the very few moderators he has at his large and popular forum is Russell Pickering who spends most of his time trying to prove an AA Boeing 757 crashed into the Pentagon which goes directly against one of the main points in Dylan’s movie Loose Change which advocates that no plane hit the Pentagon. What’s up with that???

A lot of people have been complaining in the background about Dylan’s strong-arm tactics and immature behavior and his seemingly lack of interest at his own forum by allowing trolls there to run amok for quite some time now, but were afraid to speak up because if you brought it up at his forum, you would most likely be banned on the spot. Another reason people haven’t stood up (including me) to say anything about him is because we don’t want to be seen as dividing the movement and don’t want to give ammunition to the immature skeptics who’s sole purpose is to destroy the 9/11 truth movement.

Well we can only stay seated and quiet for so long until we become the very people who we complain about that stay seated and quiet about thinking 9/11 was an inside job. Dylan’s actions of censorship and strong-arming are, in my opinion, discrediting the 9/11 “Truth” Movement just as much, or maybe even more, than the very theories he thinks are discrediting the movement.

Dylan is not the only “big-wig” in the 9/11 Truth Movement who thinks they know what’s best for the movement and, ironically, these other “big-wigs” in the movement who think they know best for everyone think Loose Change is detrimental to the truth movement!

Some truthers will say that exposing 9/11 is too important to worry about free speech because if the New World Order gets its way, there will be no free speech anymore, so we must “suspend” the very things we are fighting for to win our battle for the “truth”.

Well that being said, then there are only two options for the 9/11 truth movement as I see it:

1) Support free speech in our efforts to find the truth about 9/11 and condemn censorship (one of the very things we are supposedly fighting against)

2) Become fascists and support a elitist hierarchy that the majority of truthers (or those who pull the most weight) think will know what’s best for the movement to lead us and attack and ridicule those who the movement's self appointed Messiahs deem "trouble makers" for the movement.

I, for one, am against fascism and support freedom of speech and I’m taking a stand against dictators who think they know what’s best for the 9/11 truth movement.

I’m calling for Dylan Avery to step down as an administrator at the Loose Change Forum and for the other members of Loose Change, Jason Bermas and Korey Rowe, to either take control of the forum and run it more professionally, or close it all together like the did with their last forum.

I also urge other sites, like 911blogger.com, to crack down on members who think they know what’s best for the movement and who viciously attack other truthers who they disagree with.

I urge all truthers who support free speech and who are against bullying tactics to stand up against any member or group in the 9/11 truth movement who they think are stifling free speech and are acting like dictators.

Now is the time to take a stand.

Don’t regret not standing up like Earl McManus did:

McManus regrets he didn't stand oop

If truthers think I am detrimental to the 9/11 truth movement, feel free to take a stand against me.

My banned from list.

TV Fakery explains the "Pod" phenomenon

(Updated: 06/20/07)

I slowed the Courtesy CNN and CNN Exclusive fake 2nd hit videos down to 1fps using VirtualDub to, again, try to show the Podders that their beloved "pod" is not some special mechanical add-on on some one-off drone 767 that is used to fire out a missile from it a fraction of a second before it hits the South WTC Tower, but that it is just a result of sloppy animation of fake planes in fake videos. When doing this, I discovered what explains the appearance of a "pod" underneath the planes along with the disappearing wings & tails as the cartoon plane is about to melt through the cartoon building.

When the planes in the videos come into view against the blue sky background, there are no pods or other visible anomalies seen on the planes. ALL the observed anomalies happened when the cartoon planes pass in front of the black smoke coming out of the North Tower which suggests it's a result of animation blunders with the inserted CGI planes (or however they did it) when they pass in front of a different color from being moved across the blue sky (think blue screen in a sense). You can see that a "pod" immediately forms under the plane and gets more pronounced as the cartoon plane gets closer to the cartoon South Tower as if it is growing. Also notice that the planes stagger awkwardly across the screen.

Fake 2nd WTC crash 'Courtesy' of CNN

Fake 2nd WTC crash 'Exclusive' by CNN

But don't fret Podders!

Even though your theory that the "pod" underneath is a mechanical add-on is now debunked, there is still a "pod" underneath the plane that shouldn't be there, it's just not made out of aluminum, but pixels!

(SIDE NOTE: I also believe the Courtesy CNN video was aired before the CNN Exclusive because you’ll notice what crappy quality the Courtesy CNN video is compared to Exclusive CNN’s crisp and obvious computer enhanced colors.)

(Updated) The vonKleist cover-up

Dave vonKleist of 911 In Plane Site isn't purposely covering-up that this plane isn't showing a "pod" underneath when it's in front of blue sky to try to save his pod theory is he?

The vonKleist cover-up

(See 38:25 into 911 In Plane Site to see this clip.)

And no, I'm not suggesting Dave vonKleist is a shill, but I just couldn't help notice that he is inadvertently(?) covering-up the underbelly of the CGI more... plane that does not show the "pod" when this "plane" is in front of the blue screen, er sky.

See also:

• WTC 'Plane' Crash Videos
• Foolish Glen Stanish

Is Flight93crash.com a spook site?

(Updated 07/01/07: Original post now at 911movement.org)


A couple of months ago, I started a thread at the LC forum asking if the popular Flight93crash.com conspiracy site was a spook site because I started to become suspicious about this site after a while.

The first thing that started to make me suspicious was that I had emailed them (at flight93crash@hotmail.com) numerous times to introduce myself and let them know I linked to their site and hope they would return the favor, but I never received an email back from them which I thought was weird. I also began to wonder if all the rumors about Flight 93 being shot down where purposely started by the government to distract us from their botched crash scene at Shanksville and to keep us thinking that a plane still crashed there even if everybody thought it had been shot down.

Flight93crash.com only focuses on the shoot down theory and has been the most popular conspiracy site about Flight 93 in which just about every 9/11 conspiracy site out there has linked to. It was even the site that first inspired me to start a page about Flight 93 in which made me too focus only on it being shot down (which you can tell by what I originally titled it: Was Flight 93 shot down?).

Over the years though, it seems like all the latest research has been about no plane crashing at Shanksville, including mine, yet the underlying message at their website is only about one thing:

So as time went on and when I occasionally went back to check on their site, I couldn't help noticing that they have not updated their website at all since Aug ’03! You telling me they have been too busy or have lost total interest in their site that they could not update their site at least once in 3 years+?

I had also realized something else about them. No one seems to know who is running this site! So it made me wonder, was this site set up to help perpetuate the shoot down rumors early on?

I decided to snoop around a little and check their domain registration. What I found was very interesting. Their domain name was created 6 days after 9/11 (some whois say 7 days):

Domain Name: FLIGHT93CRASH.COM
Registrar: GO DADDY SOFTWARE, INC.
Whois Server: whois.godaddy.comReferral
URL: http://registrar.godaddy.com
Updated Date: 13-Jul-2006
Creation Date: 17-Sep-2001
Expiration Date: 17-Sep-2007

http://www.whois-search.com/whois/flight93crash.com

And was registered to this address:

Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (http://www.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: FLIGHT93CRASH.COM
Created on: 18-Sep-01
Expires on: 18-Sep-07
Last Updated on: 29-Jun-06

Administrative Contact:
Crash, Flight93 flight93crash@hotmail.com
300 N Center Ave
Somerset, PA 15501
United States
555-4451536

This address is only about 12 miles away from the crash site and not only that, an internet search of their registered address* reveals this address is for the Somerset County government offices!

Somerset County Government
300 North Center Avenue
Somerset, PA 15501
http://www.co.somerset.pa.us/navfiles/voter_files/pollingplaces.htm

(*credit to total911.info for find.)

What’s also interesting about their site is that they have no photos of the crash scene at Shanksville. The only photo they have on their site is a small pic of Val McClatchey’s Flight 93 fraud photo that supposedly shows the aftermath of Flight 93 crashing.

9/11 researcher Thomas Potter noticed the area code of their registered phone number (555-445-1536) was fictitious and notified the domain company, GoDaddy.com, in which they said Flight93crash.com had to correct it or their account would be cancelled.

Did Flight93crash.com have a phony address listed at the domain registration?

Well today, they changed their domain registration address to generic GoDaddy.com address:

Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (http://www.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: FLIGHT93CRASH.COM
Created on: 18-Sep-01
Expires on: 18-Sep-07
Last Updated on: 29-Jun-06

Administrative Contact:
Private, Registration Whois Privacy and Spam Prevention by DomainTools.com
Domains by Proxy, Inc.
DomainsByProxy.com
15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353
Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
United States
(480) 624-2599

>>> Last update of whois database: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 23:48:06 UTC <<<

GoDaddy.com

Business Address
14455 N. Hayden Rd.
Suite 219
Scottsdale, AZ 85260

Telephone Numbers
Domains: (480) 505-8899

(Click photo for screen shot of new domain registration.)

Truthmove.org is peddling disinformation

Truthmove.org, another nicely polished 9/11 planehugger site, just set up a new page about disinformation amongst the 9/11 truth movement.

The purpose of this page, according to them, is [bolding mine]:

The 9/11 truth movement is a prime target for disinformation, infiltration, and other forms of sabotage by forces who do not want the truth to be known.

~

Disinformation requires intentionality while misinformation does not. In the 9/11 truth movement, you will come across both—evidence, materials, researchers, and groups that either consciously or unconsciously promote false or misleading information. Much incorrect information within the 9/11 truth community likely began as disinformation but has been perpetuated as unintentional misinformation.

They say that you will come across groups that is either “consciously or unconsciously promote false or misleading information”.

Ok, let’s look what Truthmove.org says about the high controversial topic of no-planes and TV-fakery at the WTC in which a lot of truthers accuse people who believe in no-planes/TV-fakery are peddling disinformation:

Truthmove.org brings up the hologram theory when mentioning no-planers. To me they seem to be suggesting that most no-planers subscribe to the hologram theory at the WTC. This is interesting because I know a lot of no-planers and I think a handfull no-planers still subscribe to the hologram theory in which the WebFairy is not one of them.

So who are all these other no-planers that subscribe to holograms? Well I asked those at Truthmove.org to write me a long list of who they all are and so far, the big long list of all the no-planers that subscribe to the hologram theory comes out to be a whooping two.

There are at least 50 no-planers out there I know of and Truthmove.org, in their new “disinformation” page, makes it seem like most no-planers subscribe to the hologram theory, yet they can only list two no-planers who allegedly believe in this theory.

So I ask: which group is peddling disinformation now?