February 11, 2007

Is Flight93crash.com a spook site?

(Updated 07/01/07: Original post now at 911movement.org)


A couple of months ago, I started a thread at the LC forum asking if the popular Flight93crash.com conspiracy site was a spook site because I started to become suspicious about this site after a while.


The first thing that started to make me suspicious was that I had emailed them (at flight93crash@hotmail.com) numerous times to introduce myself and let them know I linked to their site and hope they would return the favor, but I never received an email back from them which I thought was weird. I also began to wonder if all the rumors about Flight 93 being shot down where purposely started by the government to distract us from their botched crash scene at Shanksville and to keep us thinking that a plane still crashed there even if everybody thought it had been shot down.


Flight93crash.com only focuses on the shoot down theory and has been the most popular conspiracy site about Flight 93 in which just about every 9/11 conspiracy site out there has linked to. It was even the site that first inspired me to start a page about Flight 93 in which made me too focus only on it being shot down (which you can tell by what I originally titled it: Was Flight 93 shot down?).


Over the years though, it seems like all the latest research has been about no plane crashing at Shanksville, including mine, yet the underlying message at their website is only about one thing:



So as time went on and when I occasionally went back to check on their site, I couldn't help noticing that they have not updated their website at all since Aug ’03! You telling me they have been too busy or have lost total interest in their site that they could not update their site at least once in 3 years+?


I had also realized something else about them. No one seems to know who is running this site! So it made me wonder, was this site set up to help perpetuate the shoot down rumors early on?


I decided to snoop around a little and check their domain registration. What I found was very interesting. Their domain name was created 6 days after 9/11 (some whois say 7 days):


Domain Name: FLIGHT93CRASH.COM
Registrar: GO DADDY SOFTWARE, INC.
Whois Server: whois.godaddy.comReferral
URL: http://registrar.godaddy.com
Updated Date: 13-Jul-2006
Creation Date: 17-Sep-2001
Expiration Date: 17-Sep-2007

http://www.whois-search.com/whois/flight93crash.com


And was registered to this address:


Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (http://www.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: FLIGHT93CRASH.COM
Created on: 18-Sep-01
Expires on: 18-Sep-07
Last Updated on: 29-Jun-06

Administrative Contact:
Crash, Flight93 flight93crash@hotmail.com
300 N Center Ave
Somerset, PA 15501
United States

555-4451536



This address is only about 12 miles away from the crash site and not only that, an internet search of their registered address* reveals this address is for the Somerset County government offices!



Somerset County Government
300 North Center Avenue
Somerset, PA 15501
http://www.co.somerset.pa.us/navfiles/voter_files/pollingplaces.htm

(*credit to total911.info for find.)


What’s also interesting about their site is that they have no photos of the crash scene at Shanksville. The only photo they have on their site is a small pic of Val McClatchey’s Flight 93 fraud photo that supposedly shows the aftermath of Flight 93 crashing.


9/11 researcher Thomas Potter noticed the area code of their registered phone number (555-445-1536) was fictitious and notified the domain company, GoDaddy.com, in which they said Flight93crash.com had to correct it or their account would be cancelled.


Did Flight93crash.com have a phony address listed at the domain registration?


Well today, they changed their domain registration address to generic GoDaddy.com address:


Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (http://www.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: FLIGHT93CRASH.COM
Created on: 18-Sep-01
Expires on: 18-Sep-07
Last Updated on: 29-Jun-06

Administrative Contact:
Private, Registration Whois Privacy and Spam Prevention by DomainTools.com
Domains by Proxy, Inc.
DomainsByProxy.com
15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353
Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
United States
(480) 624-2599


>>> Last update of whois database: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 23:48:06 UTC <<<


GoDaddy.com

Business Address
14455 N. Hayden Rd.
Suite 219
Scottsdale, AZ 85260

Telephone Numbers
Domains: (480) 505-8899


(Click photo for screen shot of new domain registration.)



February 09, 2007

Truthmove.org is peddling disinformation

Truthmove.org, another nicely polished 9/11 planehugger site, just set up a new page about disinformation amongst the 9/11 truth movement.

The purpose of this page, according to them, is [bolding mine]:


The 9/11 truth movement is a prime target for disinformation, infiltration, and other forms of sabotage by forces who do not want the truth to be known.

~

Disinformation requires intentionality while misinformation does not. In the 9/11 truth movement, you will come across both—evidence, materials, researchers, and groups that either consciously or unconsciously promote false or misleading information. Much incorrect information within the 9/11 truth community likely began as disinformation but has been perpetuated as unintentional misinformation.


They say that you will come across groups that is either “consciously or unconsciously promote false or misleading information”.


Ok, let’s look what Truthmove.org says about the high controversial topic of no-planes and TV-fakery at the WTC in which a lot of truthers accuse people who believe in no-planes/TV-fakery are peddling disinformation:



Truthmove.org brings up the hologram theory when mentioning no-planers. To me they seem to be suggesting that most no-planers subscribe to the hologram theory at the WTC. This is interesting because I know a lot of no-planers and I think a handfull no-planers still subscribe to the hologram theory in which the WebFairy is not one of them.


So who are all these other no-planers that subscribe to holograms? Well I asked those at Truthmove.org to write me a long list of who they all are and so far, the big long list of all the no-planers that subscribe to the hologram theory comes out to be a whooping two.


There are at least 50 no-planers out there I know of and Truthmove.org, in their new “disinformation” page, makes it seem like most no-planers subscribe to the hologram theory, yet they can only list two no-planers who allegedly believe in this theory.


So I ask: which group is peddling disinformation now?



February 07, 2007

757 in Shanksville vs. helicopter in Iraq

Why is Shanksville so different than the rest of the world when an aircraft with fuel crashes into the ground?





Maybe foreign soil is just different.

February 05, 2007

Chippy bows out of Shanksville debate

911debunker (a.k.a. “Chippy”) bows out of our Shanksville debate being held over at Guille’s Sector G forum:


911debunker Posted: Feb 5 2007

That being said, I am, for the time being, stepping out of this debate. My classes have kept me way too busy to keep this up, and I just can't spend the necessary time doing this. I should have spent my last hour doing homework and I spent it on this, which is not good. I'll find someone at JREF to take my place.