"You're either for free speech or you're not" - Krisboro (08/01/08)
"Free-speech advocate" Krisboro just, um... banned me:
Krisboro runs jackbloodforum.com, created for Jack Blood (although Jack has no control over it), that has become increasingly a joke. He advocates "free speech" over there, but bans people he disagrees with, yet allows trolls like Looger, Rob "piece of" Bishop, and stallion4 to go hog-wild with their immature comments, personal attacks, and even suggestions of killing one's self.
Case in point, No-Planer "Lord Tsukasa" had been reassured by admin Dr.No. that he was free to discuss NPT there:
you have got it right, you are free to discuss these ideas here,
without fear of being banned or censored ....
However a couple of months later and after repeated attacks by the trolls, Lord Tsukasa and a couple of No-Planers were banned by Krisboro for discussing NPT:
Reason given for ban: Don't need the hassle... You guys have your own place to dicuss your theories, I suggest you go there instead.
I had asked Krisboro to un-ban these No-Planers who were told that they were safe to discuss NPT. As expected, Krisboro said no. I then start suggesting that Jack Blood should not allow that forum who bans people after they are told they won't be and who allow trolls to go hog-wild to use his good name.
A couple of months ago, I had sent Krisboro a PM asking him to get rid of some of the trolls like "Looger" who seem to do nothing but attack and insult people. Krisboro then posted my Personal Message to him on the forum to try to show "HankXavier" that I'm not for "free speech":
From: Killtown [ Thu Jul 31, 2008 8:20 pm ]
quasi says you're the Admin to come to.
Can you get rid of Looger? The guy is nothing but a troll. See in this thread:
"Anybody else always get banned on Prisonplanet forums?"
Would appreciate it.
First of all, Krisboro is right! I'm not for "free speech" on private truth forums. "Free speech" means that people can post personal attacks, slander people, be condescending, etc on a forum without fear of being banned. That kind of speech has been something I've always opposed to be allowed on truth forums.
In Krisboro's reply to my PM, he essentially says he won't ban people like "Looger" because he's an advocate of "free speech" and the forum he runs in Jack Blood's name is a place for "free speech":
From: krisboro [ Fri Aug 01, 2008 1:32 am ]
I'm not going to "get rid of" anyone, especially not a regular board member like Looger, just on the say so of you.
Looger happens to be a good friend of mine and is anything but a troll.
You cry all over web forums that you are censored and banned from forums for your opinion, but then you advocate I do the same on my board just because you don't like what he has to say?
Get real dude...
You're either for free speech or you're not (in which case you're in the wrong place)
Krisboro is being a hypocrite in ever sense of the word by claiming to be for "free speech," but then bans people for speech he doesn't like. As Krisboro himself said: "You're either for free speech or you're not."
But what's even more despicable than Krisboro's hypocrisy on free-speech is that he allows trolls to post the most vile thrash at the Jack Blood Forum.
Recently, No-Planer "sparkoflife" starts posting over there. Well-known troll Rob Bishop then replies to sparkoflife "Why... won't... you... people... die?!" along with a follow-up pic that advocates for him to commit suicide.
I then start a thread to show everyone how the forum has become a joke by censoring people for their theories, but tolerate trolls who suggest people like No-Planers should die (imagine the uproar by planehuggers if a No-Planer suggested that planehuggers should "die") and to call on Jack Blood to not let them use his good name, for such a joke of a forum, or to get new admins.
Admin "Dr. No." then responds by calling me "pathetic" and suggests that my standing up to the despicable admin over there is just one of my "little games." I called him out to explain what he thinks my "little game" is, but like a coward, he never does explain.
The funny thing is that you'd think the reason Krisboro banned me was because of me calling out his despicable actions as admin and calling for Jack Blood to disassociate with that forum if that's what kind of forum Kriboro is going to run in Jack's good name, but from the looks of it, Krisboro doesn't ban me for that, but for calling well-known troll Rob Bishop what he is; a POS. Go figure.
A plea to Jack Blood:
Jack, I urge you for the sake of your good name to do what you can to get mature and non-censoring admins to control that forum in your name, or to ask for your good name to not be associated with that forum that has become a joke.
See my banned from list.
See my banned from list.