July 28, 2007

Ed and Elaine Brown house under siege

(Update 07/29/07: Ed Brown's video blog update of last night.)


(Note: a lot of pranksters were calling into the show tonight, I wouldn't be surprised if this whole thing was a hoax played on the Brown's and us.)



Multiple shots reported.


Listen to latest: tnrlive.com





July 27, 2007

Freeway Blanc


Why does it appear that all the vehicles on the freeway in this 2nd hit video are white?



Addendum to The Frozen Fireball video.

July 24, 2007

Rick Siegel attacks and slanders me

You can see what transpired here. And I was banned too. ; )


July 19, 2007

Anonymous forum poster predicts yesterday's NYC blast

An anonymous poster at the Godlikeproductions.com's forum posted a warning on the 14th about a "major bombing threat" to New York and claims to know and names the people who will do it who are allegedly part of an Israeli assassination unit in the Mossad called Kidon and says it will only be a "dry run" to test warning systems and also says that Dept. of Homeland Security Chief Michael Chertoff, who just warned us of an increased risk of an attack this summer based on his "gut feeling", secretly gave the go-ahead:

Major bombing threat to New York on Wednesday July 18 -- Please warn the American people

No name
User ID: 266411
7/14/2007 6:07 PM

Twelve guys from Israel's Kidon unit are going to target NYC (department stores, Broadway, other locae) with high explosives and possibly a mini-nuke and make it look like al Qaeda terrorists with "Iranian links" are responsible.

I know these guys are involved: Shmuel Harriman, Yitzhak Frenkel, Menahem Vitman, Don Palder, Ari Itzkovich, Jay "Crow" Stimpson, Michael Panchet, Don Lineweaver, and Yocheved Gilman-Katz. I don't know the names of the three other guys.

The way I was told, it's supposed to be "a dry run" to test warning systems, and this has secretly been given the go-ahead by Chertoff.

If you push this around the Net, I know for sure they'll scramble the show.

Please do it.

I won't hang around in case they trace me before I'm gone.



Of course you can image how this poster gets mocked and ridiculed for making this wild "the Jews did it" post:

- This is total crap!

- Please don't fuck around. I live in NYC.

- Should this be reported as an abusive post?

- its becoming the norm for some nuts to come up with scare predictions that are possible, but not that likely

- WHAT A LOAD OF BULLSHIT! WHAT A LOAD OF BULLSHIT :D Hey OP your really quite lacking in the brain department aernt you?

- So we can expect to see Mossad agents running & screaming from the department store in NY.. after aliens thwarted their actions.. yet again! ET's are hiding, disquised in the toy department, ready to pounce at will.

- "Major bombing threat to New York on Wednesday July 18" Yeah, right. (Y-A-W-N) This endless nonsense is just SO freakin' boring. Move along, folks--nothing happening here...

- Well, today is the big day, however I can't help but wonder why the al Qaeda terrorists with "Iranian links" aren't also working with Hamas, Hezbollah, and Syria to accomplish their goals against the great satan. Perhaps that will come out later.

- Why the fuck would anyone with this sort of information come only to GLP??? A place inhabited with paranoid nutcases and grid firers...

- Hey OP, we're still waiting........................

- NOTHING AT ALL HAPPENED TODAY IN NEW YORK, ERASE THIS PLEASE

- .......still waiting OP..........................................................


Of course this anonymous poster gets the last laugh when his prediction essentially becomes true that a blast will happen in NYC on the 18th:




Hat tip to rockwell.

July 18, 2007

Pre-9/11 bio-attack drill names Sept. 11 scapegoats

If 9/11 was an inside job, then there would most likely be drafted plans detailing this conspiracy just like what we saw with Operation Northwoods, the false-flag plans drafted by the U.S. military that detailed how this evil military faction would commit terrorism in the U.S. and blame it on a specific foreign country (Cuba) to provoke war.


If we could read these false-flag 9/11 plans, we would also expect to see the scapegoats listed on these plans that perps would want to blame for 9/11. The specific scapegoats we would expect to see would be terrorist groups in Afghanistan (Al Qaeda) and Iraq since the Bush admin just hours after the attacks planned to bomb Iraq for the attacks.


Since we don't have these false-flag 9/11 plans to read, is there any other evidence that suggests that Al Qaeda and Iraq were going to be blamed for 9/11 beforehand? Check this out:


On June 22-23, 2001, just under 3 months before 9/11, the U.S. military held a senior-level war game at Andrews Air Force Base called Dark Winter. The scenario of this bio-terrorism drill was designed to simulate a smallpox attack in three states in which one of these states would be Pennsylvania.


As a part of this war game, scripted TV news clips were made to help make this drill as realistic as possible. In one of these clips (clip 3), the TV anchorwoman actor mentions that no groups have claimed responsibility yet (just like with 9/11) and then goes on to blame two groups for the attack. Get a load of which two groups this war game blames for their simulated attack:



Wow, the writers of this pre-9/11 war game named the exact same people that the U.S. government would blame for 9/11! Maybe it should be no surprise as one of the "key player" participants in Dark Winter who played the CIA Director was none other than former CIA Director James Woolsely who was one of the main voices that suggested that Iraq might be involved with 9/11.


Another interesting participant in this drill was controversial New York Times reporter Judith Miller, who would be a victim of a bio-attack by having an anthrax hoax letter sent to her shortly after 9/11, had access to top U.S. government officials and helped pushed the Iraq WMD threat propaganda, and was jailed for not revealing her source in the Valerie Plame CIA leak scandal.


You can watch the entire scripted TV news clips for Dark Winter here.


See also:

Credit to bsregistration for this find.

July 09, 2007

Did the Limo driver shoot at Kennedy?

(Update: 12/06/07)


When I first saw the version of the Zapruder film that actually showed the driver, Secret Service Agent William Greer, and the front passenger, Agent Roy Kellerman, my first impression was probably like most who first saw it; damn, did the driver shoot Kennedy?!


The actions of both Secret Services agents are, to me, highly suspicious. Agents Greer and Kellerman both turn around at the same time and see Kennedy with his arms up by his neck gasping for air from being shot in the neck, then both turn back around at the same time as if nothing has happened. Then a second later, Greer turns around again to look at Kennedy as he slows the limo down while Kellerman leans back at the same time Greer turns around towards Kennedy, although Kellerman remains looking forward. Then Kennedy gets his head blown off right after Greer turns around and stares at him for the second time and then immediately after, Kellerman leans forward to duck down at the same time as Greer turns back around to the front and leans forward to duck down as he starts to speed away. It's as if both rehearsed their actions dozens of times.


What partially made me think that the driver might of done it was I only remember growing up seeing the Zapruder film version that didn't show the drivers and thought how weird it was that all this time seeing the film before, it didn't show the suspicious actions of the driver and front passenger Secret Service agents and after hearing the excuse Agent Kellerman gave as to why Greer turned around again makes it all the more unbelievable:

Between the second and third shots, however, [Kellerman] claims he shouted, "Let's get out of line, we've been hit," but that Greer apparently turned to look at Kennedy (for the second time), allowing Kennedy to be hit fatally, before accelerating the car out of the danger zone. As Roy Kellerman told author William Manchester, "Greer then looked in the back of the car. Maybe he didn't believe me."

After the initial astonishment wore off and I studied the actions of Greer closer, I concluded that he didn't shoot at Kennedy because it appeared that Greer wasn't holding a gun in his left hand:


Yellow circle showing William Greer's clenched left fist at the time Kennedy's head explodes. Notice his right arm is low on the steering wheel. (Photo source - #312. Note that I enlarged, sharpened, and brightened this still.)


However, after reading allegations that the Zapruder film might have been altered and then those allegations not seeming so far-fetched after I recently learned that the Zapruder film wasn't even shown to the public as a video until Geraldo Rivera first showed it in 1975 on Good Night America, more than 11 years after the assassination, I now wonder if Greer's left arm and hand had been altered if the Zapruder film had indeed been altered?


Now going back to look at the actions of both Greer and Kellerman and factoring in that the Zapruder film may have been altered, I just can't help wonder if Greer didn't whip around to his right with a gun in his left hand while slowing the limo down to pop Kennedy? Is it just another one of those bizarre coincidences that when you look at the film, it does in fact look like Greer did just that?


When looking at Greer with his left hand clinched in a fist in front of him with no gun in the released version of the film, a couple of things seem odd to me.


First, get in your car with both hands high and then low on the steering wheel, then whip around your right to look at the back seat where Kennedy would have been sitting. You'll notice that it would be your natural tendency to take your right hand off the wheel, not your left hand as Greer has appeared to do.


Second, while still in the driver's seat, whip around again back towards where Kennedy was, but this time pretend you're an assassin that has to shoot Kennedy. If the perps planned for the driver to turn around and shoot Kennedy and keep it as concealed as possible, they would most likely have hired a left-handed shooter because a right-handed shooter in the driver's seat would have to extend their right arm straight and all the way back to shoot at Kennedy thereby greatly exposing himself to on-lookers.


Now pretending you have a gun in your left hand, try whipping around to the back to shoot at Kennedy. Would it be easier for you to shoot at Kennedy with you right hand up high on the steering wheel, or down low on the wheel? I think it would be easier if your right hand was down low in the wheel, exactly the position of Greer's right arm. Having your right hand low on the steering wheel and whipping around with a gun in your left hand would be the best way for the driver to shoot at Kennedy and keep it as concealed as possible IMO.


Third, isn't it against protocol for a Secret Service agent, who is driving the President around in front of the public, to have their hands down low on the steering wheel, the position that would flunk you if you're taking a driver's test?


Here is Greer driving before Kennedy gets shot. Notice his hands are up high on the steering wheel; the correct driving position.


Both of Greer's hands are on the steering wheel as the limo was on Elm Street minutes before the shooting.


Forth, Greer having his left hand off the steering wheel clenched in a fist while looking back at Kennedy seems really odd to me. Why would he be clenching his hand in a fist like that? Does his left clenched hand even look natural coming down like that?

(Click gif for clearer view.)

Notice that it looks as if Greer had his left hand up high on the steering wheel before dropping it down. Why would he have his left hand up high on the steering wheel and his right hand down low on the wheel if he wasn't preparing to turn around towards his right side to shoot at Kennedy with his left hand? Coincidence?


Fifth, notice that Kellerman, the passenger, had his hand covering his left ear right before the fatal shot as if he was expecting a shot coming from Greer. Another coincidence?


Lastly, if they are able to doctor the Zapruder film, they would obviously cover-up Greer's left arm and hand if he shoot at Kennedy with it.


Now even if the film has been doctored to cover-up Greer's shooting attempt, there would be some opposing questions even if Greer had shot at Kennedy, namely wouldn't Gov. John Connally's head have been in the way and if Greer did manage to hit Kennedy from the driver's seat, why does Kennedy's head go back and to the left and not back and to the right? I don't claim to have that answers to that, but let me say that just because I don't rule out that Greer may have whipped around to shoot at Kennedy doesn't mean I'm saying he actually shot him and delivered the fatal head shot that caused Kennedy's head to be thrown back and to the left. Some theorize that Kennedy was shot at at multiple angles when Greer slowed the limo down at the final kill-zone. Maybe Greer did shoot Kennedy, but his wasn't the dramatic head shot that looks to have came from the front also.


Whether Greer did shoot at Kennedy or not, Agent Greer's and Kellerman's suspicious actions that day are enough for me to believe that they were both in on it.

See also:

July 05, 2007

Banned at WTCDEMOLITION.COM

(Update: See Witty Comic at bottom)

Yes I know, you're probably thinking that I'm just trying to get banned at every 9/11 conspiracy site, huh? But I swear I'm not.

I stumbled upon the blog site wtcdemolition.com just the other day and skimmed through it and saw that some of the posters there were posting about problems they have with 911blogger and Loose Change, so I figured I'll start posting there to see how the site is and that it might be a good site to vent what I see are the problems in the 9/11 truth movement among other things.

Well I sure got a nice welcome by one of the admins there after one of my first posts:

oh brotha
Submitted by gretavo on Wed, 2007-07-04 02:41.
~
Now, Killtown, I have to be frightfully honest here and tell you that I also consider you to be a mega-disinfo shill. I consider you part of the blatant disinfo crowd (the fake fake truth movement) that helps the subtle disinfo crowd (the real fake truth movement) pass itself off as the real truth movement.


Damn! Not only does he think I'm a shill, but a "mega-disinfo" shill! So now I think this admin is nothing but a dumbass for thinking that (and funny he says my no-plane at the Pentagon stuff got him into "hardcore truthing"!) and I continue to reply to him trying to make him see how dumb it is for him to say that about me, then the other admin at the site comes in and insults me too (albeit not as bad):

Oh, Killtown...
Submitted by casseia on Wed, 2007-07-04 04:09.

I know you've had a hard-knock life amongst the haters at 911b and the Loose Change forum, but here, even though gretavo is honest enough to say he thinks you're a shill, we still want to give you a puppy (or a kitten, if you prefer).

Translation: don't take that personally. Maybe you're disinfo, maybe gretavo is, maybe I am. We're grown-ups here and at least I take you seriously enough as a researcher that I'm interested in what you have to say even if some of it is crap. So relax, let your hair down, and don't come in here expecting (and thus eliciting) the kind of bad treatment you've gotten elsewhere.


I love when "grown-ups" call some of your research "crap"! Very "mature".

Then I posted about the haters that ruled the comments section at 911blogger and I get attacked by a hater. Casseia then edits into this hater's post:

EDIT: Hey, we're trying an experiment here -- an experiment in being CIVILIZED. Please save it for when Killtown actually says something you disagree with. (Chances are, you won't have to wait long :) --casseia


Ok get that (besides the jab at me), both admins insult me and yet they are trying to promote a "civilized" site at wtcdemolition.com. Then Casseia edits into my response to the hater:

EDIT: Killtown, please see above. Your part in the experiment is to chill about the haters elsewhere and see what happens here. The rage against the haters shtick gets old really fast. Thanks. --casseia


Ok remember that, she's can't stand my grievances with the haters in the truth movement.

So I start asking her if she's not bothered by the haters in the movement and here is her response:

No, I'm irked by the haters.
Submitted by casseia on Thu, 2007-07-05 18:37.

Please ignore the haters here and I'll ask them to refrain from hating. Now go blog about something like Val McClat-whatever and don't make me regret offering a pro-Killtown opinion to this blog's benevolent overlord.


Wow, she is really making me feel welcomed at their site.

Just before that exchange, I started a poll there asking what people think 911blogger should do about their comments section. I added a reply to my poll blog that the haters over at 911blogger prefer the old points system/mob rules method to moderate the comments section. Well I used the word "hater" in my post and apparently Casseia has a real big problem of me continuing to harp on the haters:

Okay, but please...
Submitted by casseia on Thu, 2007-07-05 18:20.

Your membership was approved here on the premise that you would have more to contribute than rage against the haters. I agree that you were treated unfairly, but why not blog about something interesting?


So me harping about the haters is not "interesting" to her, so she decides to start playing "Mom" and tells me to post about I guess "Casseia approved" subjects. This is funny because the only reason I started commenting about the haters at certain 9/11 sites was because I saw blogposts at their site harping about the same sites I was having problems with and mentioned that's why I posted about the haters:

Well most of the blogs here were about hater 9/11 sites
Submitted by Killtown on Thu, 2007-07-05 18:28.

such as 911blogger and LC, the sites that have been giving me most of my problems. What am I supposed to do, censor myself from posting in them?


Then Casseia plays "Mom" again:

BLOG ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE!
Submitted by casseia on Thu, 2007-07-05 18:40.

Are you so crippled by bitterness that you can't come to a new site and blog about something that has to do with 9/11?


So I responded:

Sorry casseia, I didn't see the site's rule that...
Submitted by Annoymouse on Thu, 2007-07-05 18:48.

when you first come here to not post about things that irks a particular admin here.

You know if there where blogs here about Val McClatchey or other non-hater related blogs that's in my current interest, I would have posted on them. Is it my fault that there just happened to be mostly blogposts on hater 9/11 sites when I just stumbled upon this site the other day?


Notice it said "Submitted by Annoymouse"? That's because they banned me before that post!



Ok, so by reading all that, you may walk away thinking I'm just being some kind of attention whore who just wants to stir trouble at forums and it's my fault that I got banned at wtcdemolition.com for not obeying one of the admin's wishes about me not posting about my grievances with some in the truth movement. Well that's all fine and dandy, but then why are the admins allowed to keep posting blogs about the people they have grievances in the movement?

Loose Change Boyz My Space Pages
Submitted by gretavo on Thu, 2007-07-05 20:32.
Dylan
Jason
Korey
My Space is owned by Rupert Murdoch--do they know this? Anyway, their pics look really cool and they have a ton of "friends".
They are rad.

I hate to be a divider and all, but...
Submitted by gretavo on Tue, 2007-07-03 07:16.

911Blogger Front Pages Video Featuring Mega-Disinfo Shill David Shayler
Submitted by gretavo on Thu, 2007-06-28 14:01.

Dylan, Jason, and Korey - Straw Men for Hire
Submitted by gretavo on Thu, 2007-06-28 03:20.

Subtle Disinfo Watch - Dem Bruce Lee Styles Casts 911Blogger as the Victim of No-Planer Smear Campaign
Submitted by gretavo on Mon, 2007-06-25 16:55.

Meanwhile, back at the shill ranch...
Submitted by gretavo on Fri, 2007-06-22 13:53.

Info About no911conspiracy.com
Submitted by gretavo on Thu, 2007-06-21 17:32.
The site is registered to a Catherine Valentino.
There is a city council member of Ithaca New York, a career Democrat, by that name.
Ithaca is 80 miles from Oneonta, where Loose Change is based.

Why DOESN'T DZ Ban Nico Haupt, aka Ewing2001 from 911Blogger?
Submitted by gretavo on Wed, 2007-06-20 17:03.

More Shenanigans at 911Blogger
Submitted by gretavo on Mon, 2007-06-18 00:49.

911 Blogger Happy to Promote Right Wing LIHOP Shills
Submitted by gretavo on Sun, 2007-06-17 23:39.


So seeing I can still post there as anonymous poster, I started pointing out the hypocrisy of their decision to ban me:












Did you see my posts pointing out their hypocrisy? No, because they deleted them.


Now since they see that they realized that they allow anonymous posts and that they fear I will continue to use their anonymous posting option to expose their hypocrisy, they then implement the same Draconian 911blogger measures that they were bitching about to prevent me doing this:

Anonymous posts to be moderated
Submitted by gretavo on Thu, 2007-07-05 23:36.

for the time being... fear not, registered users who are not in reality Killtown will never have their comments moderated. instead of arguing about a blatant disinfo disruptor, maybe people have thoughts about where the movement goes from here?



Nice. I should have know better about a 9/11 "truth" site that says this:

This site encourages discussion and analysis of news and facts surrounding the events of 9/11. We begin from the premise that many if not most aspects of the events have been lied about and/or covered up by the government and media. We discourage wild speculation not based on verifiable evidence, such as claims of "video fakery" with regard to the planes that struck the towers. We will not tolerate racist or otherwise bigoted comments, and in turn will not tolerate baseless charges of bigotry. Our desired goal is a provocative and informative resource for those who feel that the issue of 9/11 merits serious and thought-provoking discussion and debate.




Just think, if Mama Cass didn't try to dictate what subjects I can and cannot talk about, none of this drama would have happened.


Let me end this blogpost with a earlier comment from the Great Gretavo:


Killtown...
Submitted by gretavo on Thu, 2007-07-05 18:09.

If we ban you can we get free advertising on your site too? It's funny that you advertise for all the people who ban you so much. Why not just pretend they don't exist? I'm afraid your purpose is most likely to be to give them the credibility that comes from your obsession with dissing them. I also notice that this here blog is nowhere in your blog roll. Now, that's not a request, please understand. I just think it's funny that for a blog that is not important enough to list on your blog roll you chose it to come have these arguments with your "haters"...

Yes gretavo.




See more of my comics here and my banned from list.

July 01, 2007

US planning false-flag terror this summer?

Looks like "Al-Qeada" might attack us this summer, so heads up:

Secret Document: U.S. Fears Terror 'Spectacular' Planned

Official Cites Resemblance to Warnings and Intelligence Before 9/11

July 1, 2007 - ABC News

A secret U.S. law enforcement report, prepared for the Department of Homeland Security, warns that al Qaeda is planning a terror "spectacular" this summer, according to a senior official with access to the document.

"This is reminiscent of the warnings and intelligence we were getting in the summer of 2001," the official told ABCNews.com.

U.S. officials have kept the information secret, and Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff said today on ABC News' "This Week with George Stephanopoulos" that the United States did not have "have any specific credible evidence that there's an attack focused on the United States at this point."

As ABCNews.com reported, U.S. law enforcement officials received intelligence reports two weeks ago warning of terror attacks in Glasgow and Prague, the Czech Republic, against "airport infrastructure and aircraft."

The warnings apparently never reached officials in Scotland, who said this weekend they had received "no advance intelligence" that Glasgow might be a target.

Homeland Security Secretary Chertoff declined to comment specifically on on the report today, but said "everything that we get is shared virtually instantaneously with our counterparts in Britain and vice versa."

Unlike the United States, officials in Germany have publicly warned that the country could face a major attack this summer, also comparing the situation to the pre-9/11 summer of 2001.

Did you get that? Everything U.S. intel gets is shared with their "counterparts" in Britain where their gov't orchestrated the 7/7 attacks on its people (IMO) and I'm sure those two car bombs found in London were from legit foreign terrorists and not a scare tactic ploy by the British gov't to give their new Prime Minister, who just took over, an excuse to tighten their grip on its people...

The bombs were found just two days after new Prime Minister Gordon Brown took office, and one day after he appointed members of his Cabinet.